10 inch floor tile down with tar?
Question by David S: 10 inch floor tile down with tar?
I bought a house built in the 50′s. When I removed the carpet I found 10 by 10 old tile. Might be asbestos not vinyl I don’t think. Brittle and pops up pretty easy, breaks easy in cut glass like fashion etc just by folding.
The floor is concrete, when the tile comes off, there is a Black Mastic I could swear is Tar like on the roof, thin slightly sticky and catches dirt easy.
What is it and how do I remove it so I can lay a new floor.
Thanks for your knowlege.
The tiles come up OK it is just that darn Tar stuff, I figure the new tile glue wont stick to it as the ceramic in the dining room is coming loose. That tar is underneath those, the mortar comes loose at the tar, and the mortar is stuck to the tile. Go figure.
Thanks to everyone’s answer. Looks like this is a major job! I took a tile to the hardware where we tried several adhesive removers until we found an odorless one that worked. Mike was right on the money, odorless is the best solution, and a green one to boot. Still like you all said sanding to completely remove it will be that last step with a Bonding agent to secure the new tile.
Thanks again for all the answers, will have to use some of everyone’s help on this one!
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Answer by W. C.
Don’t know of any adhesive remover that will dissolve that adhesive, but for stubborn tiles, you can use a hair dryer or heat gun & a putty knife in most cases.
For those that refuse to come up, get yourself a block of dry ice & rub it on the tile. The tile will contract enough & release from the adhesive.
The only way I have ever gotten that stuff up was with a floor sander & a bunch of disks. Be sure to wear a mask & if you use the dry ice, be sure you’ve got good ventilation as the dry ice is carbon dioxide & will cause you to pass out without good ventilation.
Be careful & don’t sand the tiles as there’s a pretty good chance they contain asbestos, which is harmless except when inhaled into the lungs & even then, small amounts usually will not affect you, but there’s no sense chancing it…work with a mask.
Good luck…
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you could try a pre-mixed tile adhesive rather than dry-mix & paint the floor with a bonding agent first.
The bonding agent is a milky looking latex product that when dry is sticky & provides a bond for surfaces like your black adhesive.
You could get a quart of the bonding agent & a quart of the pre-mixed mastic & try a couple of the delaminated tiles in your dining room & see what happens.
Your only other option will be to sand the old adhesive off. If you end up sanding, do it room by room, get some thin painter’s plastic, tape it to the walls & seal your doors…it ain’t a fun job.
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How to know if floor is made of asbestos?
Question by Adarsh: How to know if floor is made of asbestos?
My house is covered with red 12″ vinyl tiles. The house was constructed in 1990 and also I live in Mauritius. Is there risk of asbestos found in it?
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Laminate floor install on non-flat floor?
Question by astlaurent13: Laminate floor install on non-flat floor?
I am installing a new laminate floor in my kitchen over existing linoleum. The entire floor is slanted which isn’t a problem because it is flat except in one spot where is has a larger pitch to the slant. The slant goes down about 1/2 inch in a 4 foot span. I cannot remove the linoleum to look at the sub floor as it is original to the house 1950′s and more than likely has asbestos in it. I do not believe there is a problem there as this is where the basement stairs use to be and someone moved them and did a poor patch job here. How do i level out that spot to lay the laminate floor? Do i use self leveler? can i use self leveler over linoleum? is self leveler too heavy for a wood sub floor because they are cement based? can i use a wood underlayment and shim that spot?
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Answer by imm0rtaly_insane
cant you trowel some stuff up there to make it even?that self leveler is for for new homes i think or remodeled.you might have to get rid of the portion you plan to level,or scracth it up real good so it can adhere
seems you have the answers already
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Has anyone covered a floor with carpet samples? How do you do it?
Question by Dickensgal: Has anyone covered a floor with carpet samples? How do you do it?
I am trying to set up functional housing for my son who hasn’t worked in years. He has no money, so it has to be do it yourself at the least possible cost. There is vinyl asbestos tile on these floors, all broken up at the edges by carpet tack strips. I’d like to cover it if possible. Any help greatly appreciated.
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Answer by Nancy B
My husband and I did this many years ago when we first married. We actually sewed the carpet pieces together using an upholstery needle. It was very difficult. I think today I would use carpet tape. Much quicker and no blisters!
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Asbestos and Floor?
Question by Gopher: Asbestos and Floor?
The other day, I had to grind the floor of a metal trailer. There were no tiles or anything, just a metal floor with paint on it. We were grinding the floor so that we could repaint it. In addition, this trailer was built in 1990. What are the chances that this floor contained asbestos? Also, did insulation at this time contain asbestos? The insulation in this trailer is like a hard, yellow substance. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
We did do some drilling in the walls as well. That is why I asked about the insulation. Thanks.
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Answer by eskie lover
Since the EPA banned asbestos in insulation 1973 should not be asbestos insulation. That being said, they have also revised and added other asbestos containing substances to the ban several times since most notably in 1989. There is a lot of information about this topic at:
http://reports.ewg.org/reports/asbestos/facts/fact5.php
Unfortunately, the EPA abandoned its ban on asbestos and it well could be asbestos because thousands of asbestos containing products, insulation being one, are sold in the USA as I write.
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I have 2 layers of asbestos tile in my basement. What floor can I put over this?
Question by : I have 2 layers of asbestos tile in my basement. What floor can I put over this?
I’ve been told Duraceramic. I’m wondering if ceramic or porcelein might be better. I know it’s colder, but I could throw some area rugs dowm for comfort. I’m more worried about failure due to the 2 layers of VAT. For the most part they are down solid. Just a few areas beginning to crack, but not much.
Are there any speical prep instructions I should follow if either of theses floors would work?
What do you think about laminate flooring like Dupont Real touch Elite? I get some humidity during some very bad summers, but it’s not a big problem/
My problem about removing the tiles is that in NJ it can not be a DIY project, Vat tiles must be removed by someone trained in proper removal and disposal. I can’t really afford that. Which is why I’m trying to find out what exactly I can put over them. I thought about Laminate, but hear mixed reviews concerning basement humidity warping them. It the floor was totally flat it wouldn’t be so bad, but it’s not. So there’s the issue of leveling it before installing a new floor.
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Answer by don_vvvvito
The basic rule of thumb is if there are two or more layers of flooring down you take something up or install plywood over the top with the flooring.
You mention that the VCT is down solid and since it has asbestos in it I assume it has been there for a while so you can take a reasonably good chance and just go over the top with the flooring.
I have installed Duraceramic a couple of times and it seems to be a good product.The good thing about it is there is some flexibility in it and you don’t have to worry about cracking as much due to uneven surfaces which you probably have.
Ceramic and porcelain may not be a good option due to bonding issues with the VCT and uneven surfaces.
Sheet vinyl would be a good option as well as carpet if you do not have water issues.
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Redo my basement floor?
Question by jimdotedu: Redo my basement floor?
So I had a flood in my basement, and trashed the carpet that came with the house. I found broken tile (I suspect containing asbestos) and an uneven surface. I’d like to find some sort of goop I could pour over the floor (after removing lose tile and leaving that which is stuck) which will self-level, seal the floor, and give me a smooth surface I can put probably laminate flooring on. I have taken measures to prevent future flooding.
Suggestions please
Additional info — Area to be covered is about 300 sq ft
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Answer by John
There are several self leveling, pourable masonry products that are available, however I don’t know of any that will work if you don’t remove ALL the tile. There are also several trowel applied floor levelers that you can apply in the areas where you remove tile. At best, unless you have experience working with any of these products, you would probably be wasting your time and money. They are difficult to use for the inexperienced and the end result is usually disastrous. Your best alternative would be to remove all of the floor tile and remove the adhesive residue to the point that you have a relatively smooth surface. At that point, you can install you floating floor. Be sure to install the layer of underlayment that’s recommended for you choice of floor. If you feel relatively certain that you floor tile contains asbestos, it can generally be safely removed using an ice scraper, but don’t go crazy and disintegrate the tile allowing millions of particles to become airborne. For any tile that is adhered really well, a little heat from a paint remover or a good hot hair dryer will usually soften the tile and the glue . Worst case scenario, heat using a propane torch, being careful not to burn the tile.
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we’re trying to paint a popcorn ceiling & fear it has asbestes,lots fell off on the floor & got on my hand
Question by g h: we’re trying to paint a popcorn ceiling & fear it has asbestes,lots fell off on the floor & got on my hand
We have a popcorn ceiling (house built in 1977) we tried to paint. Lots fell onto the floor and on my hands. Now I’m worried as I have a 3 month old daughter. What should I do? We don’t have money so please don’t suggest anything expensive. Should we vaccum it up or put on gloves and try to pick it up?
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Answer by marvin A
goto google and type in : popcorn ceiling,,,asbestos,,abestos.
I dont think they ever used abestos for this but you should read it out.
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old vinyl tiles, hardwood floor?
Question by re: old vinyl tiles, hardwood floor?
Q: I have a 30-year-old home. I want to put down a hardwood floor. The problem is that I think the old vinyl tiles, which are cracking and sit on a concrete slab, have asbestos.
Can I cover them or do I need to remove them to successfully install a hardwood floor?
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Answer by me
I would remove the cracked tiles replace with a similar height vinyl tile. (wear protective gear) Then put a cushioned underlayment then luan then the new flooring. Delta FL is a fantastic underlayment.
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Is there any reason I can’t put down good quality self-adhesive tiles over a glued down vinyl type floor?
Question by CalamityJane: Is there any reason I can’t put down good quality self-adhesive tiles over a glued down vinyl type floor?
The old floor is the original in a home built in 1978. It is glued down tight over a concrete slab. I have no idea if it has asbestos in it, so don’t want to try to remove it.
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Answer by rvblatz
sand it good ,clean it good ,it will work ok!!
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What is a good way to make a concrete floor look nice? (Asbestos)?
Question by Lavid202: What is a good way to make a concrete floor look nice? (Asbestos)?
I work at a marina. The floor is covered in green asbestos tiles. Some tiles have gotten pulled up over the years and the floor shows the concrete. It is pretty messy looking and my boss is looking for a way to make the floor look nice. Here’s what weve been considering.
*Paint the places where the concrete is showing green. So the floor at least is the same color (I dont really like this idea)
*Buy something like sealer that people apply to their garage floors. This will make the floor tough, clean, and uniform.
The floor is asbestos as mentioned earlier therefore pulling the tile isn’t an option. Any ideas?
Thanks
-Dave
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Answer by nreeltime
Lay 12` x12` ceramic tile over it.Then seal it.
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Pipe insulation and vinyl ceiling and floor tiles may be sources of?
Question by : Pipe insulation and vinyl ceiling and floor tiles may be sources of?
A. chloroform
B. formaldehyde
C. carbon monoxide
D. asbestos
E. sulfur dioxide
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Answer by JcL
D Asbestos. It was used as insulation, then banned as a common building material by the EPA. It is only dangerous when repairs are made, that is when the little fibers break off and can be inhaled.
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How do I put down linoleum over a tile floor?
Question by Sweetie Pie: How do I put down linoleum over a tile floor?
This is a large basement room and several tiles have come up and now the rest are coming loose. The tiles have been tested and there is asbestos in or on them and I don’t want to pull them all up. Someone suggested placing a thin layer of cement over the tiles and then put down the linoleum. Sounds messy to me. What is the best method to do this with out pulling up the tiles? I cannot afford to have them removed by a company.
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Answer by Landon
you are going to want to put your linoleum on a flat surface or you will be able to feel the bumps and cracks between tiles and where you had tiles. i have never tried a thin layer of cement but it would be expensive and you would have to hire someone for that because you are going to want a decent finish on it. my advice is pull the tiles up get a good respirator and plastic up all your openings to the room so it doesnt get into the rest of your house and hopefully the come up easy which they probably will if they are already coming loose. the asbestos shouldnt get into the air too much if you dont have to break the tiles or really pound away on them to get them loose.
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Gray Overlay Revitalizes Worn Floor
On this project located in Huntington, IN we applied 2 layers of our thin overlay. This floor was previously covered with asbestos tiles and the concrete was full of cracks, pits, and glue residue. The floor now looks brand new.
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What do I use to repair cracks on the floor along a concrete wall?
Question by sjrockey: What do I use to repair cracks on the floor along a concrete wall?
Hello,
We are repairing the floor in our older (1966) gymnasium. The walls are concrete block and the floor is concrete with 9″ (assumed asbestos) tile. The floor around the edge of the wall is cracking due to expansion and contraction. We are going to put base molding down, but want to fill in those cracks before putting down the molding.
What is best to use to fill in the cracks? I know using a concrete filler will just crack again…any advice is appreciated.
Thanks, Steve
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Answer by A.C.Girl
You can use seek-a-flex, which adheres well to concrete and contracts and expands with it. Its basically a silicone. May be spelled sic-a-flex.
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asbestos on the floor with animals?
Question by ♥shelter puppies rule♥: asbestos on the floor with animals?
before my dogs were house trained, they went to the bathroom on a wall to wall rug downstairs. they’re trained now so i tore up the rug. i had a floor guy come in and he said the tile floor that was underneath the rug has asbestos all over.
my cat has been living in that room most of the time. this is my mom’s house and she just wants to cover up the asbestos, not have it removed.
my questions are:
1. my 2 dogs and cat have been breathing the air for about a month since i began tearing up the rug. what should i do? are they infected?
2. is covering it up good enough to keep us all healthy?
thank you.
the tile isn’t cracked, but theres asphalt+asbestos all over the top and dusty
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Answer by Captain Tenneal
Is the flooring in good shape? or is it cracked and flaky? (cracked and flaky is not good) you can cover it up but the only sure way to deal with it is to remove it. (BTW the glue used to hold it down also probably contains asbestos)
As far as your animals go they’re probably fine. I’ve seen people living in houses with this type of flooring for 20+ years
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vinyl composition floor tile adhesive with asbestos?
Question by workhorse: vinyl composition floor tile adhesive with asbestos?
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Answer by dartiator63
Some vinyl floors were made with asbestos, but I do not recall any adhesives. Most of the old stuff is a black tar based mastic, which is a messy cleanup, but can be done. I spent 3 days on a 400 square foot room pulling tile, bagging the stuff for proper disposal and removing the mastic. New ceramic tile looks so much better.
If you do not want to tackle it that way, maybe a floating floor ( Laminate) installed over it is your answer. Lots of choices and good selection is several price ranges.
GOOD LUCK.
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All Done Painting “vinyl Floor”
All Done Painting “Vinyl Floor” Old and worn floor made new again. We went over an existing vinyl floor with a new one. Cost on the project was an issue and we worked with our customer to provide the best floor for the money.
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How can I glue vinyl tiles that have loosened off the floor?
Question by Differently-abled musician: How can I glue vinyl tiles that have loosened off the floor?
1. The tiles have been on the floor since about 1966.
2. I do not have the money to replace the floor at this time.
3. I will probably put wood floors in the future, so this is a temporary fix so don’t tell me crazy glue which may not ever come off.
4. Yes, I was the one who pulled off the tile in the first place.
5. The tiles are 9 inch by 9 inch, and do have slight spaces between them.
6. I do not know if either the glue on the back of the tile or the tile itself contains asbestos, but I am pretty sure that it does not.
7. I really do need your suggestions, this tile is in my way!
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Answer by ca_surveyor
ok.. so lets assume that the tile came up INTACT.
1) Go to the hardware store and get the same glue it was placed with. It will come in a pint can which is prob. all you will need
2) Clean off the area as best as you can from the back of the tile.
3) Clean off the floor area where the tile is going. A warmed scraper will help with that.
4) Warm your oven a bit and but the tiles in there on a cookie sheet or something like that. Do not get it HOT.. just warm. This makes the tile felxible.
5) Apply the glue as directed.
6) Reinstall the tile(s). Since you obviouly will not have spares do it carefully and do not tear or break the tiles.
7) When the time comes to re-remove them use a propane tourch and warm them up.. they will usually lift right off with a scraper.
good luck……
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